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Why are they protecting games that are'nt even being manufactured anymore? For instance i had a real urge to play FF7 but my disk doesnt work on my PS2 because its fairly new(not sure if this is the reason but i assume so since a bunch of the old PSone games that worked on my old PS2 dont work on my new one)and since retail stores, at least as far as ive looked, dont even sell it anymore, and i doubt it'd matter since it probably wouldnt work anyway. So my real question is this, does this mean that a bunch of games are now near innaccessable to the public unless you go through the trouble to buy a PSone(that might not even work!) of off ebay?
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The license/series is still very much alive on current systems and the holder of said license wants to protect their property be any means necessary they may decide to revive that gaming series later down the line who knows what their reasonings are at this point all this riaa,mpaa copyright bullshit has gotten outta control that's where the esa comes in with their fancy lawyers waving cease and desist papers at romsite admins they either comply or get taken offline permantly this is what people fail to realize we work with the esa we get to stick around a little longer we don't then its good bye rom nation


u have to remember a lot of people go around with the mentality of why pay for games when u can get them for free all these emulation authors that go around emulating recent console systems are partly to blame for this the rest is pure greed on the general internet users part and gaming publishers have a problem with this

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I understand that you have to listen to there rules to be alowed to continue providing this site to us and i wasnt implying that you should commit copyright infringment or anything like that i was just questioning the reasoning behind including games that are no longer on the market and are not going to be in the foreseeable future. It just seems to be alot of trouble to block access of these games to the gaming community, and i dont see where it pays off for them except that they might put it in a collection of games eventually. For instance if they were planning too and had announced or released a playable version of the game on a more recent platform then i would understand it being protected, but otherwise it doesnt make much sense to me.

P.S. does anyone know if Saga Frontier is protected because my copies wont work on my PS2...
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there is no reasoning behind it most of these gaming/any entertainment based companies make no sense wotsoever they just want the franchise protected makes no difference if its part 1 ,4 or 9 all of them are covered as far as the esa are concerned feel free to ask square or any other company the reasoning behind it u'll probably just get a generic answer anyways. The only company that would have a reason is Nintendo considering u can purchase old skool gaming on their shopping channel on the Wii their emulators are actually pretty good for once unlike sega's flawed attempt


Saga Frontier isn't on the esa protected list but considering Sony goes on the war path nobody dares offer up playstation games don't expect much help on that front

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Sony explained a while ago, that there was problems with old PSone games. Several of the newer machines will not run them. There was some sort of problem with the design of the PSone discs not being read by the newer PS2. Don't ask me where the web site is, as I don't recall anymore. But as the old saying goes, you pay for the new. And if you want the old, well, the major console operators don't really care about you. Sony made several promises about the fact the new PS2 would be fully backwards compatible, but it's not true.

As for the ESA, which is a pain organization, they are actually backed up by US Copyright laws. Did you know that when something is Copyrighted, it's protected for 90 years? How mad is that? So that is why the ESA is so wonderful when they go after people or sites that are holding onto emulated software. The Copyright system of the US is backing them up.


So.. that is a short explanation on what goes on. I could go into the diatribe of what it is in long form, and cite all the wonderful laws, court cases and the like. But who the hell wants to read all that?

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the other day i learned something very interesting, and that is that they made a version of FF7 on the computer. Now i'm wondering if i would be able to find(or if it would even be legal) a rom of the computer version. Now honestly i'm nowhere near an expert on emulation or the tech behind it but i figure a computer game should be copiable and although i don't know the ESA'a opinion regarding copies of computer games i was wondering if finding a copy of the computer version over the web would be plausible.
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Technically, copying of any format of the FF series is a no-no, since it's still an ongoing franchise. You may be able to find this PC version online somewhere, but it will never be on RomNation.
On that note, I'm sure that down the line, Square/Enix will probably release a massive collection with all the prior FF games on one disc, the problem is, it'll probably wind up on the PS3. Roll Eyes

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alright well thanks for the help anywyas. i guess ill just waimt around and see what happens -_-
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Ok kiddies i am a super hacker ( i only do it legally per say ) i cant provide yah links cause i love this site, but there are other rom sites that offer final fantasy 7, they also allow diablo, but there esa protected games are different for some reason. ( sssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and it is super easy to find Final fantasy 7 for the computer. just look around. But you should understand that ff7 was the greatest in that franchise so it is always going to be protected, ff7 cerberus or something just came out a few years ago, they protect stuff cause the name is still there. who knows 1-10 years from now they might come out with a FF7 remix with better graphics or a FF7 porn party where cloud and aris have a big orgy with barrak and red and that yoshi chick ( soz its been awhile since i played ff7 ).
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